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蒋贡康楚仁波切脸书“还俗”声明汉译参考版

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发表于 2016-8-2 23:27 | 显示全部楼层
”我同样承受了很多痛苦,为了释放一些痛苦,我烧伤了自己的手臂甚至想过自杀。 但言语却会撕碎我的心!这些年来我所承受的诸多恶语,已经把我的心撕碎了!“”

那些认为我的选择会破坏他们的公众形象和尊严的人,是真正自我中心和自私的人。

这些话应该包含了很多不方便说出的隐情
发表于 2016-8-2 23:29 | 显示全部楼层
是否退转,其实我们无法判断,不能因为还俗就判断是退转
发表于 2016-8-2 23:38 | 显示全部楼层
下午看到的,不是噶舉弟子,所以看待這件事的態度可能就非常外行和膚淺,總之覺得無論是大成就者轉世也好,什麼也罷,對方首先是個自主的人。沒有必要也不應該按照別人的期許來活,(
那些认为我的选择会破坏他们的公众形象和尊严的人,是真正自我中心和自私的人。
感覺是有這方面的所指的),何況是選擇做醫生這樣的心願。
總之,至少作為一個局外人,祝福和加油。
发表于 2016-8-3 00:18 | 显示全部楼层
云水堂主 发表于 2016-8-2 22:10
No.11似乎有所指向。总的一句就是:我不干了。高级别的活佛,也有高级别的烦恼啊。最後以还俗来(暂时性的 ...

奇怪了,有那么了不起的前世

一直接受噶举派最好的教育和修行

连名字一般人都不知道的甚深妙法大多都学过有传承吧,甚至还有弟子

怎么还会表现出这样不能离欲呢?

究竟要学什么怎么修才能离欲?才能解脱?
发表于 2016-8-3 00:21 | 显示全部楼层
异界 发表于 2016-8-2 22:34
其实上师 无论是还俗还是出家   都能理解

但是为什么 一位开悟的成就上师 会说

如果他说的是实话,或许他还没有达到离欲解脱

即使是一般人,也未必会被恶语撕碎内心吧
发表于 2016-8-3 00:25 | 显示全部楼层
云水堂主 发表于 2016-8-2 22:10
No.11似乎有所指向。总的一句就是:我不干了。高级别的活佛,也有高级别的烦恼啊。最後以还俗来(暂时性的 ...

原因: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2477068/Delhi-High-Court-delays-governments-attempt-deport-Buddhist-monk.html

发表于 2016-8-3 00:58 | 显示全部楼层
Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche 4th
August 1 at 8:37pm ·
I left my role on April 14th 2016 because of all the struggles and problems that have build up till now since past 4-5 years. Now I have reached a state where it's unbearable, i have been restricted to fulfil my dreams and have not been allowed to take responsibility and stay in peace and I feel I am a burden to all.
Things seems so well and alright in front but behind its all a chaos and I can't live my life like this , showing all bright side but inside I feel incapable and unworthy of the name , I have made this choice as the last resort and I had tried every possibilities to avoids this choice but now I am tired of all these problems repeating and them using the same excuse over and over again ! I doubt you all will understand my choice but I hope you do !
Please don't come looking for me now even though you know where I am nor be worried of me I will and can take care of myself , Those who believed in me still I am sorry for doing this but I had no choice.
I am not a monk anymore . I just want to study and fulfil my wish even though it's hard still I will try and do it !
HH Karmapa and situ Rinpoche is always in my mind and some of you know what I went through so please tell him all the things I told you ! And please tell HH that I don't deserve to see him anymore cause of my state and behaviour and please assure him that I always felt his deep love and care to me but because of me this unworthy disciple everything that happened is cause of me!
If I stay on and go on meeting you all and meeting others it will create more pain and problems and sadness. Also about the court case please continue with it cause all the problems came with the name and responsibility I had. Now I am just living a normal life and will study so please just clear this matter I don't care how many years it takes cause I have no desire to go out anytime now and I will keep in touch with whoever wants to !
Those who thinks their image and dignity in public would be ruined because my decision are the one who is truly self-centred and selfish. Rather than accusing me you should look out to the problems and dig out what circumstances made me leave.
This is my decision and I have thought a lot
I have made my decision now I don't and can't be a monk anymore and I wanna be left alone and if you really do care and love me then please leave me alone and don't come looking for me for this time it will be a different outcome if you do !
Good bye and be well ! I know it hurts and some may be angry at me and I am sorry but I too have been suffering a lot and to release some pain I have hurt myself by burning my arm and also had thoughts of killing my self so I know pain and don't want to create more pain to you all nor me so please give me peace and those in the labrang who troubled me and was root of my trouble can have peace cause I am gone !
I don't hate you all, for some of you I know you love and care for me and so do I but I had to do this sorry !
With a difficult heart I have chosen a different life style and will study and pursue my dreams of becoming a doctor ! How long will you all hide this ?
Good bye
Stick and stone may break my bone but words will rip my heart apart ! And it has ripped my heart apart with all the harsh words I had to keep I heart for all these years !
发表于 2016-8-3 01:02 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 法随法行祈加持 于 2016-8-3 01:06 编辑

Delhi High Court delays government's attempt to deport Buddhist monk


By AYESHA ARVIND
PUBLISHED: 21:53 GMT, 25 October 2013 | UPDATED: 00:30 GMT, 26 October 2013



The Delhi High Court has come to the rescue of Lodro Chokyi Nyima, the fourth re-incarnation of Karmapa Jamgon Kongtrul, who has been asked by the Centre to go back to Tibet.

The HC has stayed the deportation notice for now and has sought a response from the Centre as to why it wants to extradite the monk to Tibet where there is threat to his life.

Nyima's biological parent sneaked him into India from Tibet in 1997 when he was only two years old.
The parents feared "political misconceptions of the Chi**** Government" after the Da*** La** revealed that Nyima was the fourth re-incarnation of the Karmapa.

Nyima was taken in by the monks at the Rumtek Monastery in Sikkim and adopted by a local couple.
He has since been living in the country with his parents as an Indian citizen.

Passport row

As per the records submitted before the HC, the Central Tibetan Administration had consented to the adoption.

A passport was issued to Nyima in 2006 and he even travelled to the US on the same.

However, in 2007, the Centre sent a letter to Nyima and his adoptive mother Kunzang L Chungyalpa informing them that the monk's passport was being revoked as he had not entered India lawfully.

The letter from the Ministry of Home Affairs further said that Nyima could not be granted India citizenship by virtue of adoption as the process did not fulfil statutory conditions as per Section 4 of the Citizenship Act.

Nyima and his parents reapplied for citizenship citing the adoption documents affirmed by the Sikkim government and the Tibetan authorities.

The application, however, was rejected by MHA. In 2009, the family approached the HC through senior advocates Ram Jethmalani and D.K. Thakur seeking relief.

The counsels contended that Nyima's adoption could not be challenged as the parents had followed all state norms, and on the basis of the adoption papers he was entitled to all citizenship rights.

The court took a note of the fact that the Central Tibetan Administration had consented to the petitioner's adoption and stayed his deportation till further orders.

"The fact remains that he was issued a passport in 2006 that was later revoked. Concededly, he has been residing in India, all this while.Having regard to these circumstances, the court is of the opinion that till the next date of hearing, no coercive steps should be taken to deport the petitioner," the court said in a previous hearing.

It has sought a detailed synopsis of the matter from both parties by the month-end and fixed the matter for hearing in December this year.
发表于 2016-8-3 06:55 | 显示全部楼层
一切皆有因缘
发表于 2016-8-3 08:50 | 显示全部楼层
南無阿彌陀佛
发表于 2016-8-3 11:22 | 显示全部楼层
四大心子之一
发表于 2016-8-3 11:37 | 显示全部楼层
异界 发表于 2016-8-2 22:34
其实上师 无论是还俗还是出家   都能理解

但是为什么 一位开悟的成就上师 会说

开悟?开悟就没这烦恼了。活佛只是名号,不一定是开悟者。
发表于 2016-8-3 15:06 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
一切因缘生 一切因缘灭  仁波切还是仁波切 不管在现实中还是心里      愿一切安好吉祥
发表于 2016-8-3 15:27 | 显示全部楼层
上面那段英文……都这么多年了,还没解决吗?那仁波切会回中国吗?欢迎仁波切回来啊。
发表于 2016-8-3 15:44 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
所以说,宗教嘛。。。
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