是什么障碍,使许多真想学佛人.缺乏長期親近依止一个善師的機會？

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<P>但我不同意“以学习的现观次第而言，要以菩提心为主”</P><P>----------------------------</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 26.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>龙<SPAN lang=EN-US>树菩萨</SPAN></SPAN>《菩提资粮论》：</FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">菩萨于众生，不应得舍弃，当随力所堪，一切时摄受。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#ff0000>菩萨从初时，应随堪能力，方便化众生，令入于大乘</FONT>。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">化恒沙众生，令得罗汉果，化一入大乘，此福德为上。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">教以声闻乘，及独觉乘者，以彼少力故，不堪大乘化。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">声闻独觉乘，及以大乘中，不堪受化者，应置于福处。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">若人不堪受，天及解脱化，便以现世利，如力应当摄。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">菩萨于众生，无缘能教化；当起大慈悲，不应便弃舍。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">施摄及说法，复听闻说法；亦行利他事，此为摄方便。</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.55pt"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"></SPAN></FONT></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>所作益众生，不倦不放逸，起愿为菩提，利世即自利。</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#000000 size=4></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>菩萨总是随缘、随力，殷勤、方便地来摄受、教化众生，不舍一个众生，渐令入大乘。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4>度恒河沙数的众生入阿罗汉，还不如教化一个人，令发菩提心而入大乘的功德大。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>如果有的众生不堪大乘教化，那就只能以声闻、独觉法来度他。如果是大、小乘都不堪教化，就教以天乘，令修十善业道，布施等积福行。如果天及解脱道都不能教化，应观其只顾现世欲乐其智如同小儿，那就如对自己的儿子一样，尽力以布施等摄受他。如果实在无缘，无方便摄受教化，也应怜悯不舍。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=4>&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>无论如何，没有任何理由来舍弃众生，哪怕他最不堪教化，哪怕他只想挣点钱，哪怕他是本拉登，也不应该舍弃。应生悲愍，发愿：“宁入地狱过百劫，也不灰心修菩提”，“度尽众生，方证菩提”。学佛的人，心量就应该这么大，要发度尽众生的菩提心，不舍弃一个众生。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4>请问天青兄：道次第中共下士、共中士何意？</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4>如果不是发菩提心，怎能称为上士？<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4><FONT color=#ff0000>发菩提心乃入大乘门</FONT>！</FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 10.5pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4>所以，<FONT color=#ff0000>tin兄说“以学习的现观次第而言，要以菩提心为主”，这正是大乘佛法教授！</FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><p>［此帖子已被 TSKM 在 2006-6-22 21:00:59 编辑过］

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<P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">就已出離心而言 是中士道者及共中士道者必需休學的法門</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">中士道者 修學出離心的目地 只求解脫 如小乘者</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">共中士道者 是為了成就菩提心而修學出離心</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">所以多加</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">"<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>共</SPAN>"</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">字的的<SPAN style="COLOR: blue">用意</SPAN>是為了成就<SPAN style="COLOR: red">菩提心</SPAN>而加的</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS">1.</FONT><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">小乘者修學出離心的時候是為<FONT color=#ff0000>解脫</FONT>而修學出離心</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS">2.</FONT><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">大乘者修學出離心的時候是為<FONT color=#a52a2a>成佛</FONT>而修學出離心</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in; WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">可是沒有出離心也沒辦法進入大乘的門啊</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in; WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">同樣的道理廣論的</SPAN><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">三士道</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">都是為了</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">成佛而說的</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in; WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">所以學廣論的人修學出離心的時候應當要以發菩提心的目標來修學出離心</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in; WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">否則若只有修學出離心的話</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW>很可能為了個人解脫的目的而修行</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">因為當你沒有菩提心的基礎</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">只有修學出離心的話</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">當產生出離心時就會厭離輪回</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">此時很容易變成</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">個人的別解脫去了</SPAN><p>［此帖子已被 maya 在 2006-6-22 21:10:07 编辑过］

maya

<P><P><FONT color=#3809f7><FONT size=5></FONT></FONT></P><FONT color=#3809f7 size=5></FONT>&nbsp;<P></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">大乘现观次第的修行雖然以菩提心為主 但並不代表观修菩提心的時候</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW>就等於關修出離心啊</SPAN>!!!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">請問</SPAN><B><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">天青琉璃</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">師兄</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">固然要有出離心才有菩提心</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW>可是以大乘现观次第的修行整體而言</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW>難道不是以菩提心為主嗎</SPAN>????<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>這點不可否認吧</SPAN>!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#006400><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">我覺得</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">共下士道和共中士道是成就菩提心的基礎</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#006400><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">上士道最主要是以菩提心本身</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">, <SPAN lang=ZH-TW>廣論後的止观二法</SPAN> , <SPAN lang=ZH-TW>是菩提心的學處 </SPAN>&nbsp;<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>所以</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#006400><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">可以這麼說廣論的所有內容都是以菩提心為主</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" color=#006400>三士引導成佛之理其實就是由菩提心的前行正行學處來獲證佛果</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><p>［此帖子已被 maya 在 2006-6-22 23:25:38 编辑过］

TSKM

<P><FONT color=#000000 size=4>分享<FONT face=Verdana>e-lama.com 中</FONT>法王关于菩提心的教授：</FONT></P><P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>阿底峡尊者曾说：</FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4>“如同日月般的菩提心，不论经过多少劫，我也要学，值得去学。”</FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>日月般的菩提心是世俗及胜义菩提心。</FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>今天我们所要学内容是菩提心与空正见，如同国王般的菩提心教授，第八世纪寂天菩萨所着的“入菩萨行论”，这部论可以说是空前绝后，是讲授菩提心的论典中最殊胜的，中观见解与月称菩萨的见解吻合，是属于中观应成派最殊胜的见解。</FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>……</FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4><FONT color=#000000>思惟菩提心与空正见确实有帮助，非同观想的力量，很直接改变内心。</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4><FONT color=#000000>空正见确实如此，如所说般确实不是真实存在，内心有这种概念，所见的都是虚假，对内心是有帮助。</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4><FONT color=#0000ff>以菩提心来说：“乃至有虚空，以及众生住，愿我住世间，尽除世间苦。”思惟这句偈颂也能给你带来无比心力。如遇失望时，能给我们带更多的希望及光芒。再加上“愿四大被众生分享般，愿我也给一切众生分享，为一切众生仆人。”当你有这种心力时，面对什幺困难不能克服。</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4><FONT color=#0000ff>不要一</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff>下仰望着上上的教法。应该先有基础，再修上上法门，这才是最有利最安全的。</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#000000 size=4>……</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: red"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f5f5dc" color=#000000 size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">如果能够真正见到佛的化身，那不用说是善根具足；即使仍在烦恼中见到佛像，由此因缘，将来能见到百亿尊佛的真正化身。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f5f5dc" color=#000000 size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">为何今日见到佛像，能促成如此缘起？由于佛陀在行菩萨道时的悲心，他时时刻刻为众生着想，只要有谁见到他，听到他的名字，都想要帮助他。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#000000>&nbsp;</FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT color=#000000 size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">如同《入行论》的回向，因为有悲愿强大的力量，我们可以相信菩提心所带来的果实，是无止尽的。所以要策励自己生起菩提心，为无量众生着想，从所缘境来说是无量的，功德是不可思议。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#000000>&nbsp;</FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4" color=#000000 size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">这种无比勇气的菩提心，好好的祈求他，要获得加持，要从这里得到加持，要当小偷应偷菩提心，要做强盗应抢菩提心，无论如何要想尽办法让自己生起菩提心。在皈依时你是我唯一的上师，你是空行母，你是我的一切，你是我永远的依靠，你是今世和后世一切的依赖。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=4><FONT color=#000000><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">这个“你”字就是菩提心，没有别的词语，可以称为你字。如果把爱我执或真实执着埋在内心深处，如果说“你”是我的什幺？这是无用的，不是真正能够带来利益的。</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=4><FONT color=#000000><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">前面说过，<FONT color=#0000ff>骑上菩提心的骏马，将继续走上快乐的道路，最后达到佛果位，事实是如此。如果我们能够生起菩提心，不但今世快乐，后世也同样的快乐。</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: red"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#000000>&nbsp;</FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f5f5dc" color=#0000ff size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">佛在二千五百年前所说的教法，以及龙树父子所说的教法，以及藏传的许多大成就者，他们所留下教法，我们都能见到；虽然只听到他们的名称，无法见到本人，但是教法可以由我们的根本上师给的恩惠能够得知。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormalIndent style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4" color=#0000ff size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">如了知菩提心的功德，让我们自己好好的修习，这一生来此世间，没有比此更重要了，应该珍惜此种难逢机缘。</SPAN></FONT></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P><p>［此帖子已被 TSKM 在 2006-6-23 1:55:11 编辑过］

天青琉璃

<P>首先，关于“<SPAN><STRONG><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000>次第可分兩種 1</FONT><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon">現觀道證次第</SPAN><FONT color=#ff0000>(觀想或學習) 2</FONT><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon">因果生起次第</SPAN><FONT color=#ff0000>(證道或形成)</FONT></FONT></STRONG></SPAN>”，我是第一次听说，不知道Tin兄的这种说法的“上游”是哪里。</P><P>其次，我想，大家可能是在具体词义上需要沟通。与其说，菩提道次第的修行是以菩提心“为主”，不如说，菩提道次第的修行，是以菩提心为<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">“标的”。</FONT></P><P>大家都承认，当前前证德未能生起前，后后证德无从生起。并且也同意，菩提心的教法，对于暇满义大、出离心等，乃为“能帮助增上”，而不是正修所缘。如是因，如是果，种土豆不会生茄子。那么，对于尚处于共下、中士道的修行者而言，以何为主，以何为辅，应该是不言自明的。如果一个人连死无常的心尚未生起，甚至连依止善知识的教法都尚未听闻，却直接把90％的修行时间和精力放在修行菩提心上，这种情况，不知道哪位师兄会认同呢？都知道博士厉害，可也要把小学、中学依次学完才行。</P><P>至于菩提心的功德利益，没有人否认，不过也谢谢楼上师兄辛苦摘录，让我又学习了一遍。</P>

maya

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">1.<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>有關</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW>現觀道證次第</SPAN></SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">(<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>觀想或學習</SPAN>) <SPAN lang=ZH-TW>和</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">因果生起次第</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">(<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>證道或形成</SPAN>)</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">，</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">您可以</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">從</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">宗大師著作的</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">金鬘論的 四諦 問答裡得知，</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW>在那篇問答裡面</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">有人曾問</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"> :<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>以四諦的次第而言 應該先有集 才有苦 先有道 才有滅 那為何佛先說苦 後說集 先說滅再說道呢？</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">當時</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">宗大師就回了 <STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: maroon">現觀道證次第</SPAN></STRONG></SPAN><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">(<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>觀想或學習</SPAN>) <SPAN lang=ZH-TW>和</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">因果生起次第</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">(<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>證道或形成</SPAN>)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">的答案</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><FONT size=4>請你去問認識的西藏法師是否有這一題</FONT></SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 標楷體"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">未曾聽過的法義盛多</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"> </SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">確實不妥</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">未經觀<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">察</SPAN>而否定此文</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 標楷體">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: black">2.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>tin </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">師兄</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">並沒有說</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">，</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">甚至连依止善知识的教法都尚未听闻，却直接把</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>90</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">％的修行时间和精力放在修行菩提心上</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">。</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">我覺得</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">tin </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">師兄甚至鼓勵說為了能夠修行</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">菩提心，</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">更需要去從說法</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">者</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">，</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">多多學習並且感恩說法者</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">。</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT size=4>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: black">3.</SPAN> <FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">如果一个人连死无常的心尚未生起，却直接把</SPAN>90<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">％的修行时间和精力放在修行菩提心上，这种情况，不知道哪位师兄会认同呢？</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">這句話講的太離譜了</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">，</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">就像一個</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">玫瑰花園的園主</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">而言</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">，<SPAN style="COLOR: black">他主要所經營的事業</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">就是培植玫瑰花而已</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">，可是還是需要澆水、</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">施肥、播土</SPAN>….. <SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">等等</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">的雜事啊</SPAN>!!!</FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">不可否認</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">的</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">一點</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">也就是</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">澆水、</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">施肥、播土的同時</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">就等於培植<SPAN style="COLOR: black">玫瑰花</SPAN>。</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">同樣的</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">為了能夠成為英文博士</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">其過程有小学、中学、大學啊</SPAN>!!!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">所以小学、中学、大學的</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">一個過程</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">等於哉培</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">一位英文博士啊</SPAN>!!!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=4>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></P><P><FONT size=4><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">所以<SPAN style="COLOR: black">修行</SPAN>菩提心，不是菩提心升起之後的事</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">而是在發菩提心前的一個過程</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">才叫做<SPAN style="COLOR: black">修行</SPAN>菩提心的</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">。</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">當然</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">在小学的過程中</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P><P><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">主要課程</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">以小学為主</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">但是這跟培養</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">英文博士的主要目的並不相違啊</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體">!!!</SPAN></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>［此帖子已被 maya 在 2006-6-23 13:56:25 编辑过］</P><p>［此帖子已被 maya 在 2006-6-23 14:34:53 编辑过］

maya

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">請問</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">天青琉璃</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">師兄</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>: </P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">以升起菩提心的目的，觀想出<SPAN style="COLOR: black">離</SPAN>心的話，</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW> </SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">為甚麼不等於<SPAN style="COLOR: black">修行</SPAN>菩提心呢</SPAN>?</P><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">就像</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">為了拿博士學位，学習小学英文的話，不等於培養一位英文博士嗎</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體">????</SPAN>

天青琉璃

<P>1.我是在问这两种次第说法的来源，并没有否定的意思。师兄是否知道宗大师这种说法的“上游”是哪里？言必有据，我觉得我这样是对教法和诸位师兄的尊敬而非冒犯。</P><P>2.种玫瑰花的例子很好，正如我前几个帖子里说过的那样，这样就是把“出离心”等的修习，算作“菩提心”修习的支分。</P><P>3.至于说读书的比喻，虽然最后目的是博士，可读小学时候&nbsp;，总不能说我在读博士吧？</P><P>总之，大家都承认1.善知识是一切功德之基；2.菩提心是珍宝，是标的，大家都想早日生起无伪的菩提心；3.前前证德未生，后后证德无法生；4.虽然前前证德尚未圆满，但不等于不可以对后后所缘“下手”；5.反正就这一斤面，做多少个馒头随便，最后吃到的仍然还是一斤，这样就好。</P><P>算作支分也好，算作阶梯也罢，大家努力吧，说法N多种，没必要只有一个声音～～</P><P>希望一切众生能够早日得到具德善知识的摄受，次第增上，早日生起大宝菩提心～</P>

白玉

<BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>TSKM</B> 发表于 <I>2006-6-22 20:43:27</I> :<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>云卷云舒</B> 发表于 <I>2006-6-22 10:51:05</I> :<BR>说句不好听的话，所谓能够“亲近”的，也未必就是修行好的，呵呵。如果削尖脑袋只是为了跟人家说我和某某大德很亲近，不如削尖脑袋先好好思维道次第，好好修行供养，弄清楚依止的真正目的。<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/2.gif"> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size=4>赞！</FONT></P><P><FONT size=4>听从上师的教诲，心法相应、依教奉行是真正亲师法，是对上师的最高供养。</FONT></P><P><FONT size=4>学佛修行主要是修心，而不是看外在形式。</FONT></P><P><HR>再赞!</P><P>和上师身近?心近?</P><P>应该是心近心相应吧!<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/2.gif"></P></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>口哨清凉</B> 发表于 <I>2006-6-23 20:05:20</I> :<BR><P><STRONG>关于＂<FONT color=#a52a2a size=1><FONT size=3>甚至连依止善知识的教法都尚未听闻，却直接把90％的修行时间和精力放在修行菩提心上，这种情况，不知道哪位师兄会认同呢？<FONT color=#000000>＂</FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size=5><FONT size=3>回天青兄,Tin兄的原句不是您这样说的，他说：</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>有時</FONT></FONT> </STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT size=5><STRONG><FONT color=#800080>觀想後後道 絕對能夠</FONT><FONT color=#800080>幫助</FONT><FONT color=#800080>前前道的增上．</FONT><FONT color=#000000>他这里用了限定词</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>＂</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>有時＂，这是被限定在某种条件下的意思，</FONT><FONT color=#000000>而不是您所理解的没有前提的绝对化，至于是</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>限定在什么条件下，</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff>maya兄在他的No171号帖子里已回答您了．</FONT><FONT color=#000000>而且他这里没有出现您所说的</FONT></STRONG></FONT><FONT face=PMingLiU color=#a52a2a size=2><STRONG>一个人可以连死无常的心尚未生起，或连依止善知识的教法都尚未听闻，就可以直接把</STRONG><FONT size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><FONT color=#a52a2a size=2><STRONG>90</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></FONT><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#a52a2a>％的修行时间和精力放在修行菩提心上，</FONT><FONT size=5><FONT color=#ff0000>这</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>真的是您自己的话，移花接木给Tin兄了．</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT face=PMingLiU color=#a52a2a size=2><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN><STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT color=#000000 size=2>其实，我们审题时再稍微细心那么一点儿，就不会那样笼统理解，匆忙误会，偏激发问了，这样也就不会让有些人说我们的语文水平有问题了，其实这不仅对您，对我、对所有人都是一样，谁让咱们是追求佛智的人呢？细心体会他人原意，小心善巧地核实发问，这也是一种沟通的艺术，总比武断曲解原文后，再逼他人认领更妥当吧，友人说，这也是一种菩提心的观修实践呢。</FONT></SPAN></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT color=#000000 size=2>冒犯之处，请您原谅！</FONT></SPAN></STRONG></P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>赞同!

maya

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">天青琉璃</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">師兄</SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>: </SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW>對於您其他的意見我非常讚同 而且之前的帖子我確實有魯莽之處 敬請原諒</SPAN> !!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">可是在此我有一個疑問想請教您</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">您說</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><FONT color=#000080>3.<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>至于说读书的比喻，虽然最后目的是博士，可读小学时候</SPAN>&nbsp;<SPAN lang=ZH-TW>，总不能说我在读博士吧？</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">請問觀想知母的時候 不等於修行菩提心嗎</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">難道修行菩提心一定要升起無為大悲心之後才可以嗎</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">??<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">就如</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">: <SPAN lang=ZH-TW>碩士班不畢業的話 就不可能讀博士班啊</SPAN>!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">期待您的回覆</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體">希望透過此討論可以讓大家身住了解甚麼叫做 </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=#ff0000 size=7>修行菩提心</FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">法安敬上</SPAN></SPAN></P>

TSKM

<P>我想，大家可能是在具体词义上需要沟通。与其说，菩提道次第的修行是以菩提心“为主”，不如说，菩提道次第的修行，是以菩提心为<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">“标的”。</FONT>……如是因，如是果，种土豆不会生茄子。……都知道博士厉害，可也要把小学、中学依次学完才行。</P><P>============================</P><P><FONT size=4>我想，不仅是具体词义上需要沟通的问题，而是认识的问题。</FONT></P><P><FONT size=4>如天青兄所说“如是因，如是果，种土豆不会生茄子”，那么，如果没有菩提发心，何谈“标的”的实现？有说“不想做将军的士兵不是一个好士兵”，有道理哦，如果从上小学第一天起目标就是读完小学，认识几个字，会写信、算帐，就满足的话，这个学生一定不可能进入高一级的学校读书。如果从小发心要上大学，要读博士，那么他未来实现理想才有可能。这个道理，现实中稍作观察，不难明晓。</FONT></P><P><FONT size=4>人区别于动物处就在于：人可以理性规划自己的人生目标。而人与人的智力的高低就看能否有长远的计划与目标，高智商者下棋看三步，而不是跟着感觉走，走一步看一步。</FONT></P><P><FONT size=4>正所谓“目标决定任务，思路决定出路，格局决定结局，措施决定效果”，所以，<FONT color=#ff0000>大乘佛子学佛“目标要远大，胸怀要广阔，步子要踏实”，应首发菩提心，然后脚踏实地修习道次第。</FONT></FONT></P>

天青琉璃

<BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>口哨清凉</B> 发表于 <I>2006-6-23 20:05:20</I> :<BR><P><STRONG>关于＂<FONT color=#a52a2a size=1><FONT size=3>甚至连依止善知识的教法都尚未听闻，却直接把90％的修行时间和精力放在修行菩提心上，这种情况，不知道哪位师兄会认同呢？<FONT color=#000000>＂</FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size=5><FONT size=3>回天青兄,Tin兄的原句不是您这样说的，他说：</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>有時</FONT></FONT> </STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT size=5><STRONG><FONT color=#800080>觀想後後道 絕對能夠</FONT><FONT color=#800080>幫助</FONT><FONT color=#800080>前前道的增上．</FONT><FONT color=#000000>他这里用了限定词</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>＂</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>有時＂，这是被限定在某种条件下的意思，</FONT><FONT color=#000000>而不是您所理解的没有前提的绝对化，至于是</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>限定在什么条件下，</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff>maya兄在他的No171号帖子里已回答您了．</FONT><FONT color=#000000>而且他这里没有出现您所说的</FONT></STRONG></FONT><FONT face=PMingLiU color=#a52a2a size=2><STRONG>一个人可以连死无常的心尚未生起，或连依止善知识的教法都尚未听闻，就可以直接把</STRONG><FONT size=4><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><FONT color=#a52a2a size=2><STRONG>90</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></FONT><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#a52a2a>％的修行时间和精力放在修行菩提心上，</FONT><FONT size=5><FONT color=#ff0000>这</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>真的是您自己的话，移花接木给Tin兄了．</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT face=PMingLiU color=#a52a2a size=2><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN><STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT color=#000000 size=2>其实，我们审题时再稍微细心那么一点儿，就不会那样笼统理解，匆忙误会，偏激发问了，这样也就不会让有些人说我们的语文水平有问题了，其实这不仅对您，对我、对所有人都是一样，谁让咱们是追求佛智的人呢？细心体会他人原意，小心善巧地核实发问，这也是一种沟通的艺术，总比武断曲解原文后，再逼他人认领更妥当吧，友人说，这也是一种菩提心的观修实践呢。</FONT></SPAN></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon"><FONT color=#000000 size=2>冒犯之处，请您原谅！</FONT></SPAN></STRONG></P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>余岂好辩哉？</P><P>口哨，也麻烦你仔细看看我的帖子，我有明言甚至暗示了这是Tin的原话或者是Tin原话的意思么？麻烦你也细心一点，请你细心体会我的原意。</P><p>［此帖子已被 天青琉璃 在 2006-6-24 10:50:50 编辑过］