[讨论]这个问题如何看？

黑牦牛

树种不等于树。

无华菩提心

<BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>黑牦牛</B> 发表于 <I>2004-12-3 23:15:35</I> :<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>无华菩提心</B> 发表于 <I>2004-12-3 23:02:57</I> :<BR><P>因此六祖也不能批评.......................</P><P>是有点冒天下大不惟了</P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>佛祖好像说过即使是他说的话也是可以质疑的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>质疑不代表批评!</P>

有名无实

<P>随喜法师！</P><P>其实，观清法师有没有批评之意我们怎么知道？言语谨慎、不增不减比较好。</P><P>学教的人，自应学教，如宗大师说，离一切过、具一切德的语言，除了佛，谁也不可能具有。</P><P>本来人家声明说不立文字直指人心、不落阶级顿悟自性的，那么既无缘面对直受棒喝，又反以其机锋话头，妄作学修次第，谬执在我，不在古人。</P><P>观清法师初贴隐含此意，惜乎读者不领情。</P><P>&nbsp;</P>

故乡

<BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>无华菩提心</B> 发表于 <I>2004-12-4 14:45:27</I> :<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>黑牦牛</B> 发表于 <I>2004-12-3 23:15:35</I> :<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>无华菩提心</B> 发表于 <I>2004-12-3 23:02:57</I> :<BR><P>因此六祖也不能批评.......................</P><P>是有点冒天下大不惟了</P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>佛祖好像说过即使是他说的话也是可以质疑的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>质疑不代表批评!</P><P><HR></P><P>两个黄鹂鸣翠柳……</P></BLOCKQUOTE>

黑牦牛

象我这样的小人物胡说八道无所谓，最多当放了一个P，但一些“著名”的大人物似乎以为自己领悟了六祖德话，在那里以X导X，而且某些人连质疑的话都不让说的话，就有些可悲了。<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/70.gif">

有名无实

学教参禅不淆乱，应病与药信佛言。

bmdj

<P>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">佛宝是指：佛陀无漏五蕴相续中的</SPAN>&lt;SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">“</SPAN>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">尽无生智</SPAN>&lt;SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</SPAN>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">。（<FONT color=#e61a42>佛者觉也）</FONT></SPAN></P>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS">“法宝”亦然，佛与声闻、独觉二种圣者相续中之“涅盘”和“灭谛”即是法宝。（<FONT color=#e61a42>法者正也）</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt"></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt">&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">僧宝是指：有学圣者</SPAN>&lt;SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">(</SPAN>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">无漏五蕴</SPAN>&lt;SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; 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mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">道谛</SPAN>&lt;SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</SPAN>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">。（<FONT color=#e61a42>僧者净也）</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt">&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT color=#e61a42><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#000000>结赞：<SPAN lang=EN-US><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#000000>以我研究之金瓶，自婆沙宗香水海，<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"></FONT><FONT color=#000000>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">汲得善说甘露筵，聪慧学众请宴飨。</P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS">《宗义宝鬘》</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS">&nbsp;第五章&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;毗婆沙宗<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><FONT color=#000000>&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">可见惠能大师赞同<FONT face="Arial Unicode MS">婆沙宗观点。</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"><FONT color=#e61a42><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></SPAN>

净才

<P>六祖大师在那段开示中分明说了：“凡夫不会”！......</P><P>我想，既然“凡夫不会”，我们也别瞎废功夫了！<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/48.gif"></P><P>我们尽管从我们能够“会”的地方入手吧！<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/2.gif"><IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/54.gif"></P>

黑牦牛

<BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>引用</STRONG>：<HR>原文由 <B>净才</B> 发表于 <I>2004-12-4 23:29:30</I> :<BR><P>六祖大师在那段开示中分明说了：“凡夫不会”！......</P><P>我想，既然“凡夫不会”，我们也别瞎废功夫了！<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/48.gif"></P><P>我们尽管从我们能够“会”的地方入手吧！<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/2.gif"><IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/54.gif"></P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>还是<STRONG>净才兄看书仔细！<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/28.gif"></STRONG></P><P><STRONG>断章取义的但愿从此只有我一人<IMG src="http://www.gelu.org/bbs/images/Emotions/58.gif"></STRONG></P><br>［此帖子已被 黑牦牛 在 2004-12-5 8:39:28 编辑过］