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我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

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发表于 2007-7-1 19:17 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
<P align=center>我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志&nbsp; </P><P align=right><BR>ZEN.C</P><P>其实,和正信师兄讲道理,本身就比较白痴,人家都挂出招牌来了——“信”嘛,他的东西都是“信心安立”,你和他上哪里说理去?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>其实,我也是“随信行人”,自己也有不少信心安立的东西,所以,我个人不反对信心安立。但是,信心这玩意儿,可不是能拿出来作共许的,更不是能拿出来当“原则信条”硬要人接受的。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>对五明有信心,我不反对,那就专心五明吧,不行,还得兼一把子宗大师和定公,那就兼着呗,还不行,还得顾着印祖的净土宗。于是乎,正信师兄的修法,具有鲜明的本民族的特色——净土宗的念佛、五明的金刚萨跺,格鲁的“兜率百尊”,“众美皆备于我”,整一个集大成!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>就是这样,我也不反对,你怎么知道人家不是五世达赖的料呢?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>可是,五世达赖也没要求,格鲁派都必须夹花儿着学吧!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>不仅格鲁派,宁玛也不是这么学的,五明也不曾把班钦索南扎巴和麦彭仁波切有关宗见的著作放在一块学吧?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>人无偏向,岂有此理!除非他不是人!难道正信大师兄已豫圣哲之流?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>常愧师兄那篇写敏公上师的文章,也出来有年头了吧?这里面写的清清楚楚,五明认为《广论》是不了义的。可是这似乎并不曾触动正信大师兄大反“宗派魔”的那根敏感而又纤弱的神经,广论哪,格鲁的根本教典哪,叫人判作不了义,按某些人的标准,这不叫诽谤啥叫诽谤?可怪了,数年来不见正信师兄到任何一家五明的网站大贴语录、大申责斥?这是为什么?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>若仅仅是有宗派偏向,倒也罢了,更荒唐的是这种偏向,居然还是随人不随理的!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>想必最近只要上网,关心过因明话题的,都可以看到,正信师兄又一次将“宗派魔”的大棒,向和索达吉堪布商榷学问的宝僧师的头上抡去。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>在我看来,没有比这更荒唐的了。宝僧师出身宁玛,比丘戒来自宁玛,据在下不了义的观察,此师对宁玛教法,感恩之心犹如对初恋的回忆深契骨髓,简直到了“不思量、自难忘”的程度(了义的说法是:此师喜于格鲁人面前示现宁玛相,又喜于宁玛人面前示现格鲁相,以破学人宗派偏执。)。说坛上任何一人对宁玛抱有宗派偏执,我都有可能相信;唯独此师若对宁玛抱有宗派偏执,除非泰山崩、长江竭、冬雷震、夏雨雪,天地合,一时俱现,不然我无法信之!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>不要说对索堪布和宝僧师是差异对待,其实,对宗大师和麦彭仁波切,虽说表态 “都是文殊菩萨”,其实也没有允平视之,我引了《土观宗派源流》里宗大师对“大圆满法”的评价,正信大师兄可以视若无睹;但只要扯到一点“大圆满法”的不是,正信大师兄是必定发威的。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>当然,我也理解,宗大师那平实无华的传记确实是不及麦彭仁波切极富传奇的一生经历来得吸引某些人,但只匍匐于麦彭仁波切的传奇乃至于神通之下,就能得他老的法义心髓吗?怕也不一定吧!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>我敢十分地断定,正信大师兄怕是对麦彭仁波切著的《中观庄严论》注释从未寓目,一如他也从来没看过《广论止观章》。要看过,他还敢说:“所谓的‘矛盾’或者‘不同的见解’,实际上是不存在的”?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>还是宝僧师说对了:时下有些在藏区自认为是无宗派的追随者的法师,且莫说能善辨诸宗要义,即便是其自宗所许也未见得就能作无倒成立,其承某某法师之名或某某转世之名而树之「无宗派」的法幢,背后可能不过是「不能宗派」之辛酸而己。这样的风气滥觞,当然是不会不波及到汉地的某些人的。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>如果不幸我未言中,正信大师兄是对这两部书下过功夫的,那我倒是更有一重担心,我怕是“颟顸主义司令部”里还有这样的秘药——废弃闻思分别,止务盲信的“无分别”——其实质大概无异于摩诃衍那留在西藏的那只鞋——貌似是“滋阴壮阳”的“金丹”,实则是“夺命追魂”的毒药!这大概才是所谓“圆信”的真义所在了。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>当智者汇聚的莲苑变成偶像林立的殿堂,明辨理性的法义变成自我催眠的迷药,那就把圣教根本的精神沦丧无遗了。于此“废墟”之上堆砌再多的大德嘉言,是会成就觉者的顶严还是会成就心魔的舞饰,怕也是殊难断定的一件事呢!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>至于正信大师兄大话炎炎的说:“至于见修,见方面,以宗大师的教授为准则,修方面,以格鲁法门为根本。这一点,是决定的。”我倒是很好奇,什么是“宗大师的教授”,又什么是“格鲁法门”的“根本”?又“决定的”是什么呢?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Trijan确实惹人讨厌,在我看来,他就是一个是非篓子。更可笑的是,他老人家自居西方极乐的鹦鹉,自以为“昼夜六时,出和雅音”,惹出无数口舌,虽不能说无一实益于众生,但总的来讲,我看是功难抵过!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>你不说“大圆满”的不是,我们难道就会把“大圆满”和“格鲁见”一锅烩了?大多数人没有嘛!我们虽然学的浅,但基本来讲,我们也了解,在宗见方面,格鲁和宁玛确实存在分歧!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>《能海上师传》记载了这么一件事:有人问康萨仁波且,红教好不好?喇嘛回答:好。再细问下去,才引克主杰大师的说法细与分辨,并且不轻易说,而且每过红教庙宇,康萨仁波且总是披单蒙头,以示尊重。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>我的理解,这样既可以消弭纷争,又把“辨义”这件事控制在专业的范围内,使之保持专业水准,既不会变成乱拳闹剧,又不至于使有水准的人颟顸混滥。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>我个人一向对别派不大有兴趣,既无野心要纵贯诸派,也没时间要对别派细加分别崇贬。所以,我只要了解大致分歧在何处就行了,既不要作喋喋不休的学舌鹦鹉,也没必要在这个地方下太大的功夫。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>虽然,我对“本派最胜”实在没有依理抉择、依理安立的能力,但信心就是这么安立的,所以,这个绝对“自许”,是不涉他人他派的。</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>记得国朝太祖好像说过,解剖一只麻雀,看清五脏六腑,然后以此类推。我放这一炮,用意不过如此,当然,我开头就说了,我自己也是“随信行人”,少不得也有这样那样的糊涂、这样那样的自相矛盾。最重要的还是“己过如山看不见,他过分毫亦明察”的习气还是大大的有啊!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>向十方一切大众忏悔!<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR></P>
发表于 2007-7-1 19:50 | 显示全部楼层

Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

宗大师在广论一开头就宣说“通达一切圣教无违”<br>楼主师兄何必如此挖苦别人,有意思嘛?<br>
发表于 2007-7-1 21:28 | 显示全部楼层

Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

<STRONG><FONT size=2>妙莲花师兄,你是很维护网络团结的。随喜你。</FONT></STRONG>
发表于 2007-7-2 10:44 | 显示全部楼层

Re:Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

<P><BLOCKQUOTE><IMG src="images/icon-quote.gif" border=0> <B>妙莲花:</B><BR>宗大师在广论一开头就宣说“通达一切圣教无违”<BR>楼主师兄何必如此挖苦别人,有意思嘛?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P><P>再解释一遍,他和我一个师父,而且他作风给师父惹了麻烦,有损老人家的清誉!所以我才这么说他!</P><P>而且就最近我和他在“大圆满”辩论来看,他分明“黄皮红骨”,为了他的“文殊”、“伏藏”,海公上师的教言都可以不奉,敏公上师的教言都可以歪曲引用,这种人,如果他还是要打着“海公传承”的旗号行事,我想我骂他只有“不及”没有“过”!</P><P>他要宣传五明,我不反对,凭他自己的本事就是了,把我的传承上师糟蹋一遍不够,还一遍遍的来,他不该挨我的骂吗?</P><P>“妙莲花”上得坛来,就是训人,如果是“正信嫂子”的化身,我可以理解。如果不是,先验一验你有没有训人的资格:</P><P>你怎么理解“通达一切圣教无违”并谈谈在修行中如何贯彻?</P><P>答的通,请上座,答不通,挨奚落。宗风如此,废话少说!</P><P>&nbsp;<FONT face=隶书 color=#f70968 size=7>请——</FONT><BR></P><p>[此帖子已被 ZEN.C 在 2007-7-2 11:12:22 编辑过]
发表于 2007-7-2 15:45 | 显示全部楼层

Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

<P>哪个敢败坏上师法流!!!</P><P>跳出来!</P>
发表于 2007-7-2 19:24 | 显示全部楼层

Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

<P>热闹的地方,末学躲开去。</P>
发表于 2007-7-4 12:04 | 显示全部楼层

Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

<P>坛子坏前的最后一帖,可能大家伙都没看到,故而重贴。近来的三贴基本表明了我对“被扣‘宗派魔’”及“自宗他宗”问题的看法,实已黔驴技穷,兼之累得半死,所以要有一段“潜水休息”,向大众告假!:)</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>正信师兄:</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">trijian</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">不是万恶的奴隶主头子殷纣王,你呢,也不是被他欺辱压榨、又被送到前线当炮灰的奴隶。所以,不用目标那么明确——“吾与汝偕亡”吧?他完蛋了,您和我老</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">Z</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">扯巴扯巴也没关系吧?</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">作为同宗同门同师,数年的网友,你也赠与我定公的法宝,我也在你批驳附佛外道时小有帮衬,怎么,同志加战友,自打公元</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">2007</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">年</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">6</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">月</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">13</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">日就一拍两散?我不这么想,你怎么想,我不知道。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>之所以放炮,我知道,不来点大震动,您那花岗岩似的固执怕是不会撼动分毫,另外,礼兄不愧为老江湖,一上来看出来我在说事不说理,呵呵,可是正信师兄你真是结实,这么震也不改分毫。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>顺回一下礼兄吧,之所以说是“司令部”,是因为黄观音你们也请了,白观音你们也请了,“尚方语录”满天飞,既然大佛都请来供上了,叫“司令部”也没啥不对吧?只是佛爷有时候也可怜,被请到啥地方咋样供起来,自己也作不得主吧?:)</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>我不说理,是因为容易碰触到“高压线”,我既不会“大德附体”神功,又不曾有“尚方语录”保驾,那千金重的、“宗派魔”的帽子压下来,您还指着我顶着它扭秧歌哪,甭想,估计一下就压折了我的颈椎骨。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>正信师兄建议我去妙吉祥论坛看看,我去了,不看不知道,一看吓一跳,世界真奇妙。真是受教育了!</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>礼兄为人坦荡,所以也没藏着掖着,引文如下:</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">宗喀巴大师的观点有早年和晚年的区别,早年造的《现观庄严论金鬘疏》中解释:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">彼由缘相门,非方便故远,由善巧方便,即说为邻近。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">一颂时认为,声缘罗汉尚未证悟圆满法无我空性,离佛果还很远,而大乘菩萨已圆满证悟并具有善巧方便,所以距佛果极近。前两句指声缘罗汉,后两句指菩萨,从中可以看出声缘罗汉与菩萨有明显的差别,这与宁玛巴自宗观点一致。但格鲁派的弟子们认为当时宗喀巴大师智慧尚未圆满,是不了义的说法,故遵循他晚年所造的《入中论善解密意疏》等观点,即声缘阿罗汉已圆满证悟了法无我空性,克主杰等论师所造的众多论典注疏中,普遍采用的是后一种观点。</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> <BR><BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">应该强调的是:宗喀巴大师晚年所提出的声缘罗汉圆满证悟法无我的观点,皆由于不可思议的大悲心,欲将三乘种姓的一切众生从初发心就引入大乘般若的修法。针对小乘欲寻求遣除烦恼障而得暂时解脱的特点,为了使小乘不诽谤大乘、不与大乘辩论,而自愿入大乘,宗喀巴大师说:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">一切实执都是烦恼障</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">,因此,要遣除烦恼障,就要修大乘般若,断除一切实执,证悟圆满的法无我空性。又由于小乘种姓及大乘初学者修究竟般若有困难,于是宣说了单空的修法,渐次引入究竟般若的修法。由此可见宗喀巴大师度化一切众生成佛的大悲心与佛无异,并且所著的《菩提道次第广论》等论疏也被共许与佛亲口所说相同。(堪布益西彭措著《定解宝灯论新月释》)</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>嗯,应该承认,仅从行文来讲,还算客气委婉!至少比土观大师的直白陈述的行文和宗大师单刀直入的评介要来得让人不那么“痛”!</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>引用《土观宗派源流》:</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">第一</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">别宗的源流——</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">一</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">宁玛派源流——乙</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">别说宁玛派的源流——(丙)略加观察</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">旧派的法要,是完全纯正呢,或不是完全纯正,或正不正略有混杂,究竟如何?据仁钦桑布译师的《辨法与法论》,拉喇嘛意协畏、希瓦畏(静光)、咱米译师(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">333</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、洽译师(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">334</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)等人的书简,俄译师(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">335</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)的《蒺藜论》、萨班(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">336</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)的《三律仪差别论》诸书中,虽未明说旧派之过失,但对藏地所流传的宗派,不纯正的均加以驳斥,隐约中亦有一二语暗刺旧派之处。桂·库巴拉泽(天救)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">337</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、止贡白增(祥持)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">338</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)也提出了许多论点,证明旧派之法为不纯正。释迦乔丹(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">339</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、迦玛巴·米觉多吉(不动金刚)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">340</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)等亦附合其说。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">有一书说是布敦仁布齐(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">341</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)所作,然在大师全集目录中,未见此书名,研究其辞句,似非博学者的著述,怀疑是愚人伪托大师之名而作的。然绒宋却桑译师、衮邦·图吉尊追(悲精进)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">342</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、迦玛巴·让炯多吉(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">343</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、朱妥·邬坚巴、(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">344</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)炯丹热直(世尊剑)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">345</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、塔洛译师·尼玛坚赞(日幢)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">346</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">),以及晚近的主巴·白玛噶布(白莲)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">347</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、保沃·祖拉逞瓦(勇经餯(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">348</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)等其他别派有名的大德,和昆敦·班觉伦珠(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">349</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)、第五世达赖等本派的有名大德皆说旧派之法是纯正之法。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">唯布敦大师及法王宗喀巴师徒等堪为准则之大德,对此不加评论,平等置之。有一名为格勒白桑布的人造了名为“偈”的文章,内文中提出旧派是完全纯正之论证很多。怀疑这是另一格勒桑布作的,而非克珠吉大师(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">350</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)的著作。读了这篇文章的人都可以分辨得出来。那么对上面所说的究竟应该同意谁的呢?觉丹·索南伦珠(福顿成)(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">351</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)所造《宗喀巴大师广传》中说:“曾有人提出大圆满见是否纯正,请问于宗师”。师答说:“虽属纯正,但后来有一些学识浅薄的人,纯以己意掺杂其中”。“那么,请师将其杂入的部分删出,如何?”答说:“我亦有意及此,但因现正造《密集本续疏》、《明炬旁注》、《摄义辨边论》及《胜乐本续疏》,尚无暇及此。”鲁拉噶居巴(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">352</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)所造大师传亦有这些话。以上是听吾师汤吉勤巴所说的。因此我同意说:现在大圆满见所有说法,大多含有混杂。但不敢说此见即为邪见。不过这样高深之见,是莲花生大师等诸大师来藏时,正值时机很好,众生根基极高,观察机宜,随顺而设。现在众生根基很差,若仍宣说此见,不但无利,反而有害。温敦·仁青冈巴(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">353</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)说:“说法若不随机宜,悉令趋入学上乘,如令孩童乘野马,学法故应合根器。”</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">附:注释 【</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">350</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">】克珠吉:(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">1385</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">—</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">1438</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">)班禅第一世,本名格勒白桑。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>正如正信要问:“土观大师的宗派源流说后期大圆满有的有混杂,难道能推论出土观大师认为或者预言五明佛学院的大圆满法有混杂?咋定公上师、嘉瓦法王、班禅法王与晋美彭措法王见面时没提起过这档事?佛经祖论、授记提到过五明佛学院的大圆满法有混杂不纯净?”</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">我也要问:“彭措堪布的《定解宝灯论新月释》说宗大师前期《现观庄严论金鬘疏》与宁玛巴自宗观点一致,自然按行文隐义,从宁玛角度,系了义说;宗大师后期所见与宁玛观点不合,自然按行文隐义,从宁玛角度,系不了义说。然虽赞《菩提道次第广论》为‘共许与佛亲口所说相同’,然《广论止观章》纯系后期宗见,而佛亲口亦有不了义经教。故,实质上从宁玛角度,《菩提道次第广论》系不了义说!但有一问,总集定公上师、嘉瓦法王、班禅法王与晋美彭措法王及十方一切诸佛之所有智慧之文殊菩萨,为何于宗大师前期著了义的《现观庄严论金鬘疏》时不予劝请完成,反而于宗大师著不了义的《菩提道次第广论</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">·</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">止观章》时坚持要劝请完成?而格鲁派的弟子们认为前期“宗喀巴大师智慧尚未圆满,是不了义的说法”,按宁玛观点,岂非全成“依不了义而不依了义”?佛经祖论、授记及史实记载何时提到宗大师前期全系了义而后期为悲悯徒众反而作不了义说?”</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>呵呵,不要以为我大段引文论证,是作宗义辨析,我只不过是在证明,我首贴所言:“人无偏向,岂有此理!除非他不是人!”正确无讹!:)</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>有些宗派分歧,我在本坛原来还不敢说,看了妙吉祥才知道五明的资料都是公开的了。可以看到,彭措堪布的行文,在把“杀伤力”减到最小这点上,看来还是费了一番苦心的。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">我亦风闻某位宁玛大德在某些场合说过“宗大师嘛还是好的,宗大师以后的人就不行了”,</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">而且我也疑心这不是某一个人或宁玛某个系统的意见,因为我有听到过,与上边提到大德是不同系统里学习过宁玛教法的人有类似的讲法,看来这个大概在宁玛里是有共许的。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>对照彭措堪布的文意,大概大家都能心里明白了。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>但是,按这个说法,对格鲁而言,就意味着包括继承宗大师法座的贾曹杰,被认为是“宗喀心子”的克主杰,造了一百零八寺的阿旺扎巴,创建密院的喜饶僧格,后来被许为“观音化身”的根敦主巴,统统是不了义的,这大概不会比格鲁说宁玛的“大圆满”有“学识浅薄的人,纯以己意掺杂其中”杀伤力来得小吧?</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>可是,我们有拿这个去质疑嘛?至少我看到大多数人没有,我们还是对宁玛诸大德的弘法是非常随喜的。我们有去宁玛的坛子贴语录、扣帽子、打棍子了吗?也没有啊。我们至少谨守了能辩则据理而谈,不能辩就默然自护信心这种由那兰陀而三大寺、又由三大寺而整个格鲁派的传统宗风嘛。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>唉,人在家中坐,祸从天上来,也不知怎么头上就多了一顶“宗派魔”的帽子!:(</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>综合我所有格鲁上师对于“他宗本宗”的问题的教诫,总结不过只有四个字——不随不议。不随者,因为各宗存在分歧是客观事实,我们又没有什么抉择能力,故而专随自宗为宜;不议者,我们对宗义辨析,也远未臻专业水准,强行为之结果恐怕只能是“乱拳闹剧”。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>俗话说得好,面对问题,才能解决问题,我承认我有偏执,我以信心安立“本派最胜”嘛,但正因为我承认,才能把它控制在“不伤人”的范围之内;正信师兄,不怀好意地问问,你做到了吗?:)</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>正信师兄引了常愧师兄转述的敏公上师的开示:</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">“见地不同跟古德各自的修证有关,但无论哪一宗,依之修行都可得成就,得解脱,不是水火不相容的,各自按传承教授即可”</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">嗯,首先,谁也没说过格鲁和他派是“水火不相容的”,我也没看到</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">trijian</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">有这个说法。而且,我也问过宝僧师,噶举的《解脱庄严宝论》(噶举派的“道次第”)和本宗的《菩提道次第广论》,如果撇开宗见的不同,是否一样?宝僧师回答说,不是完全相同,但基本大同小异。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>其次,“各自按传承教授”,在宗见问题上,格鲁和宁玛不可能不产生分歧,彭措堪布如此,格鲁的大德亦如是。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>最后,如正信师兄你所言:</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">“如《定解宝灯论》《广论》,某些凡夫可能看到其中的一些不一致的说法,但我个人认为,二者均是究竟教言,等我们登上山顶时就会通达二者的圆满与圆融。对于海公上师、定公上师、法王如意宝晋美彭措上师、祈竹活佛、敏公上师、索达吉堪布等这些高僧大德的教言来说,我个人的做法就是无一字不彻底信受,对于所谓‘矛盾’‘有缺陷’的地方,‘于所闻法不能达,仰推如来非我境’,从自身找‘矛盾’,从自心找‘缺陷’。”</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></B></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>这很明显既不是宁玛的传承,也不是格鲁的传承,宁玛不会认为《广论》了义,格鲁不会认为《定解宝灯论》了义。理由如前所引所述。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>虽然你也说“对于不同教派法义的抉择,各依传承教授即可”,可我不知道《定解宝灯论》、《广论》“二者均是究竟教言”是哪个传承给你的?如果没有传承,说你“颟顸”,冤枉你了吗?</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>你又说:</FONT></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">“文殊菩萨化现为宗大师、海公上师说法,静风师兄彻底信受。化现为麦彭仁波切、晋美彭措法王说法,就象不认识了一样。</SPAN></B><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">于甚深法不能达,仰推如来非我境,要点在于<SPAN style="COLOR: red">强信</SPAN>。</SPAN></B><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">学修当然要专一一门,而信心却要圆具,仰信格鲁、宁玛均为究竟成佛的殊胜教授。你在山下看好象矛盾,上山了就没有矛盾了。山下的凡人不要对山上的圣贤指手划脚,没资格。”</SPAN></B><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">“此次辩论,我基本上是依照海公上师《菩提道次第科颂讲记》《慧行刻意习练成念记》关于<SPAN style="COLOR: red">对甚深法<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:PersonName w:st="on" ProductID="强信的">强信的</st1:PersonName>教授与断除执宗派魔的教授</SPAN>。”</SPAN></B><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">问题是,海公上师的圣意真是如你所说的那样吗?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">引《能海上师传·第八般若正见章》</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">P57</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">“执宗派魔者,谓执爱自宗、瞋他法派等偏执见。师曰:‘康萨仁波卿于对治此魔,修行特别得力。故能摄受各宗各派之人,而化除其横梗之成见。或问康萨仁波卿,红教好否,师答言好,问何故好,答开珠仁波卿如是说故。……<SPAN style="COLOR: red">盖各宗均有可采之处</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">以皆是佛弟子故</SPAN>。<SPAN style="COLOR: red">故评各宗不能一概抹杀其优点</SPAN>。<SPAN style="COLOR: red">开珠仁波卿指各宗之失</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">亦皆能洞中其症结</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">使其心悦诚服</SPAN>。<SPAN style="COLOR: red">故好歹非不应分</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">但不应加我执耳</SPAN>。<SPAN style="COLOR: red">至初学者</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">先惟应专学自宗</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">至精熟已</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">方广学他宗</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">抉择分别</SPAN>。<SPAN style="COLOR: red">但虽知其短</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">非时亦不轻说</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">于他宗不勉强附和</SPAN>,<SPAN style="COLOR: red">亦不应轻事批评也</SPAN>。”<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></B></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第一,<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">我没看到海公上师要求我们“强信”,相反他老说“于他宗不勉强附和”。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第二,<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">我没看到海公上师要求我们放弃认识有“矛盾”“有缺陷”,相反他老说“故好歹非不应分,但不应加我执耳”。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第三,<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">我没看到海公上师要求我们不能评说别宗之失,否则就是“诽谤”。只是说“虽知其短,非时亦不轻说”、“不应轻事批评”。而且只要“洞中其症结”,海公上师也并不否定。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第四,<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">Trijian</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">,我说他是“是非篓子”,因为他违背“非时亦不轻说”、“不应轻事批评”,惹了是非。但是不是“执宗派魔”,要看他在“妙吉祥论坛”的批评是不是“洞中其症结”并有根据。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第五,<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">最后,我觉得海公上师有点天真,人家都把克主杰大师至少三分之一的弘法事业判为不了义了,岂会因你以为“亦皆能洞中其症结”而“使其心悦诚服”呢!至少,我如果是宁玛派的,我就不会。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">其实,格鲁坛子上的人恐怕都比较老实厚道,我们常常连“自宗胜他宗失”都不敢说,而他宗倒是可以公开讲我们自宗大师以下,都随了“不了义见”。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">正信师兄,如果连您自承的根本上师的法流的学习,都有如许误解。那么那些虽被您承许为圣哲、却从未曾亲近观察并承事过的大德,他们的圣言,怎么肯定你就理解对了、引用对了呢?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">何况,法王再再教诲:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">“比丘及智者,应善观我语,如炼截磨金,信受非唯敬。”,您对引用圣言,作没作过了不了义的判别?判别的依据是什么?“信受非唯敬”啊,不是您依信心对大德贴上“文殊”“观音”“大德”的标签就一切</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">OK</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">了的。并且,要强迫别人按您意思信受就更是荒唐,说句不中听的,您凭什么?就凭您手里有语录本?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">小心哪,这么搞“语录”的,下场都很危险,给国朝太祖编“语录”的,不就只落下“讨嫌”两个字嘛!</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">我再说一遍,我不反对你的任何一种信心,但是您的信心不能作为共许,更不能强迫人接受。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">更何况,语录就算字面理解,你也不见得能执持奉行,比如海公上师在《慧行习练刻意成念记讲录》中讲,“佛法自己所学的,就是最好的;未学的好不好,不要去说”。我想你大概还不曾学过“大圆满”,故你无论对“大圆满”是褒是贬,皆不符祖义。如果是为护法,引大德意见可也,但在“大圆满”问题上,我没看到你这么做。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">另外,信心也需要智慧,光有信心,很难不把事办坏。打个比方,比如你引定公上师《上师无上供养观行法讲记》中关于念佛往生和威徳往生的段落,你本人依本法流规矩,尚不能得大威德灌顶。自然不会有抉择这个圣言了不了义的能力。而你自大,自以为明白,贸然贴出,又由于未学,于</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">Trijian</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">的问难无法作回护,致使客观上将定公上师竖成靶子,列于外人口舌弹雨之中,你又无能力全然驳倒</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">Trijian</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">,致使上师清誉有损。这是你最该骂的一点,也是我对你最不满意的一点,</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt">Trijian</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">固然是非可恶,你的颟顸无智也难辞其咎!你如此轻乎圣言,乱引乱贴,是合于哪家的依师之道?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">你所谓的圆信各宗,无非只问来头,不加简择,颟顸信受。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">为何?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第一、<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">嘉瓦法王你有缘依“择师十徳”观察过了?若未,信受其言是出于什么样的信心?是正信吗?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第二、<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">《新旧宗派整合》开篇就说“今天所要讲的,多少有些自述的性质”,说明这个法王本人也是自许经验,是不打算作为共许的。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第三、<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">敏公上师要求弟子们必背的一个偈子——“诸佛非以水洗罪,亦非以手除众苦,非将所证迁于他,示法性谛令解脱。”既然背了,岂止仅背而已,不作闻思?佛都无法将自证迁他,嘉瓦法王势必亦不能。而嘉瓦法王自述所证,在无法迁自证于他人的条件下,仅述结论如何教人依理信受?可见法王本身就不打算将自许经验上升到派内共许嘛。否则你听说法王下令三大寺或上下密院必修“大圆满”吗?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">第四、<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">依五世嘉瓦广学诸派的圣轨,五世嘉瓦虽兼学格鲁、宁玛、萨迦,但于宗见全无一丝混滥,于所学各宗所作的讲、辩、著事业,亦依各宗分别的宗见及宗轨而行。并不曾杂糅综汇、自创会心。亦未闻五世嘉瓦曾下令三大寺或上下密院等格鲁修学机构必须兼修“大圆满”。何况,“伟大的五世”此举于我辈而言,简直是不可思议,岂敢不知天高地厚,轻薄效颦耶?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">依此四条,判正信师兄所贴法王之言为“权说不了义”。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">虽然是“权说不了义”,却并非无意义,“赍持黄树叶,为止小儿啼”,如果正信师兄以为法王之言可止你的“小儿啼”,视为“金树叶”也无妨,但不可仅凭信心,强迫别人也一定要视为“金叶”。如果你坚持认为是“金叶”并要做共许,那就拿论证来吧,否则,免打妄想为宜。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">正信师兄自许你所谓的圆信各宗不是学无自宗,那我就发问了:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">月称论师的《入中论》是本宗必学的五部大论之一,其中有颂云:“出离龙猛论师道,更无解脱正方便”,请谈谈什么是本宗所理解的“龙猛论师道”?又为什么“更无解脱正方便”呢?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">既然“不是学无自宗”,那就请不吝赐教吧!</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">霹雳春雨,兼施已毕,你若依然故我,我也徒叹奈何!反正我自觉已尽同门之谊,其他的,唉,就非我所计了!</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="WORD-BREAK: break-all"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">最后说一句,你别的不改,由你!但让师父丢人、给师父添麻烦的事,拜托千万不要再干了行不行?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P><P>&nbsp;</P><P></P><p>[此帖子已被 ZEN.C 在 2007-7-4 12:05:22 编辑过]
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Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

Z兄,我的回复会贴在我个人的论坛里,等完成后,会在这里把链接给你.
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Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

<P>好的,礼兄费心!多谢!:)</P>
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Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

硝烟散去
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Re:我的一张大字报——炮打“颟顸主义司令部”的正信同志(ZEN.C)

笑傲江湖果然有资本笑傲江湖~
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